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The Interview In October 1999 I was fortunate enough to meet Ronnie and interview him at Anfield, at the site of the old boot room itself. Here is a copy of the interview which also appears at the shankly.com site. |
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The emphasis Shankly put on playing small sided games is legendary. Ronnie Moran again,
"If he looked at
a couple of kids juggling a ball, it wouldn't matter to him which one was better. He would want to see how they played in a game
situation. His argument would be that you don't get opportunities to juggle the ball in a match so it was irrelevant. Nowadays, clubs
and coaches in this country would always take the kid with the better ball skills. That's the problem we have now. Youngsters are
being taught all the fancy ball skills, which is fine, but they're not being taught how to play the game."
       
  Ronnie Moran with Shanks during the 1973 UEFA Cup final
Lessons It's clearly a theme Ronnie Moran is passionate about. Shankly and his coaching staff always drummed into the players the notion that they had to control a game with their heads as well as their feet. "I'm not saying having great ball skills is wrong, of course it's not and all players have to have a certain level of skill, but with Shanks it was not the most important thing. If you watched youngsters playing a game you might spot the one who gives you something extra, a bit of fight or determination for example. Shanks would want to see what the lad could do with his natural footballing brains. Does he know how to pass ? Can he tackle ? He would be looking to see if that lad had something about him." These were lessons that Moran would take on board and assimilate as his own as the years spent at Melwood grew and grew. "When I was a player I had no real understanding of how teams were built. Then, when I started watching Shanks I began to work it out. If he had a player who lacked a bit of pace but was a really good passer, he would play someone alongside him who could compensate." It was all about balancing out the shortcomings of one player with the strong points of another. Decline After his brief spell as manager, Moran was allowed by new manager Souness to return to his coaching duties. The decline of Liverpool as a European force gathered pace, as first under Souness, and later under Roy Evans the club struggled to find any sort of real consistency on the pitch. Moran does not blame Souness for the decline however, and views many of the changes he made to the club's training routine as positive ones. "We started to get a few bad results and really we all had to share the blame. The buck stops with the management so they say. But also, during my later years at the club, we started to get players in who questioned the way we did things. They wanted us to change the training depending on whatever system the next opposition would be using. Then after games we had lost these players would say things like 'well if we'd done this and if we'd done that...' and I used to say to them 'well if you realised that why didn't you change it out on the pitch ?' The problem with a lot of players now though is that they won't take that responsibility, and some of these players were actually captains of this club."
"Shanks always preached that we had eleven captains. He wanted to see players think things out and rectify things if they were going wrong. You never got shouted at for trying to change something out on the pitch. You were always taught to work things out for yourself. Mind you if you tried something stupid and it didn't come off we had a saying that we would 'hit you on the head with a big stick from the touchline'. I remember Steve Nicol getting a hat-trick once at Newcastle. Nobody told him where he had to go and what to do, he just worked it out himself. He got the match ball and I told him it was probably the only one he'd ever get ! but nobody told him off for joining in the attack. You see players now going on overlaps because they think they have to even though they've got three players around them and no chance of getting the ball. To be fair, if you look at the really successful teams now, like Manchester United or Chelsea and even Leeds, they do get it right. Look at Denis Irwin the other week at Chelsea. United were getting beaten and were down to 10 men but he pushed up whenever he could, trying to influence the game and help out, yet he knew when to stay back whenever they were under the cosh or when to bolster the midfield." For Moran the lack of quality in the game today stems simply from the fact that we don't, as a rule, teach the right things to our young footballers. "Phil Neal was telling me the other day how he used to know when to go and when not to but players today don't seem to have that nouse. I think all over the country now too much is being put in footballer's brains about what they must and must not do. All of which begs the question of how Bill Shankly would have coped with life amongst today's pampered superstars. Ronnie Moran has no doubts that Shanks would have thrived. "He would have been fine dealing with foreigners and all the big money because he would have just got on with it. He would have got through to them with his enthusiasm for the game. Can you imagine him dealing with the media ? He would love being a manager today. They would have to drag him away from the TV cameras."
Hmmm, the thought of Shanks dealing with today's media is indeed mind boggling. Ronnie Moran grins at the thought, then begins to tell me about the European night when 40 people crammed into the old boot room and another priceless anecdote unfolds. I think it's fair to say that, for Ronnie Moran, those happy memories far outweigh the painful ones. |